bulls were coming to town, the one opportunity to see them and you didn't get to see them because phil jackson at that time decided he needed rest, the disappointment? put that into the fans. miami heat who want to see not just national stars but international stars. tim duncan. tony parker. several olympics, several nba championships. no good way to slice it and not a good thing he did even though i understand and totally respect greg pop owe very much. one of the best coaches in the nba. his ultimate thing to win the championship if he had to sacrifice a game, older guys, but it is not right. jon: marvin miller is another sports controversy we're following. didn't make it to the hall of fame before he died. there is word that they may get him there posthumously quickly. should he? >> abs slautly. revolutionized the sports, the sports we now watch today, free agency, arbitration, all these things, players getting paid properly. he changed it. curt flood lawsuit back in the late '60s was part of the reason. it is why sports where they are and he was a big part of it. jon: jim gray, good to hav